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UrstGON STATE ViSRARY OCT & 4 . VOL. LiX XO. 18 D90 Entered at Portland (Oregon) ' X J'-'-'V Po.tKfrire Second-Class Mutter PORTLAND, OREGON, SATURDAY, OCTOBER 1, Wt': PRICE FIVE CENTS CLEW IS DISCOVERED IBDFJUS LAWTEST CITY MAKES STRIDES DURING SEPTEMBER BUSINESS IS BETTER, BIBLE IN SCHOOLS UP TO $85,000 TREASURE GOLD DUST AXD NUGGETS HID SAYS RESERVE BOARD TO SUPREME COURT PRESBYTERIANS TO APPEAL ACCEPTED BY IRISH TO START AT ONCE BANK CLEARINGS BEST OF ANY MONTH SO FAR THIS YEAR. DECIDED IMPROVEMENT NOT ED DURING SEPTEMBER. BY MIXERS 45 YEARS AGO. EXCLUSION QUESTION. HON ERE MCE GALL PUN TO AID IDLE 'MILLIONS FRIED WIFE S DULY HOPE PUTINSURHENDEH Valera Replies to Last Note From Premier. rlORBESPONDENDE HELD VAIN iujjc ui oeuienieiu riu in Percrtnol MooHnn OCTOBER 11 TO BE DATE iTcry Possibility of Agreement lb to Bo Explored at Session, , Bays Sinn I cin Chief. j LONDON". Sept. 30. (By the Associ ated Press.) In a. brief, business-like ncssage, Eamonn de Valera tonight Dformed Premier Lloyd George of ,1 acceptance of the premier's lnvl atlon for a conference in London Oc- 1 ober 11, on the Irish question, thus : lesrlng the way for a momentous at mpt to settle the centuries-old prob m between Ireland and Great Brit- kin. " Relief was expressed .in official circles here tonight that the diffi culties which for some time seemingly y hreatened to prevent another con ference apparently had been cleared away by the message of Mr. de Valera. The reply raised no question as to lie sintus of the Sinn Fein delegates, ind no further, correspondence be- .wren tne premier ana me irisa I eadcr is expected. I Invitation, ia Accepted. I "We received your letter of lnvi I tatlon to a conference in London Oc I tober 11, with a view to ascertaining a how the association of Ireland with he community of nations known as the British empire may best be rec onciled with Irish national aspira tions," said Mr. De Valera in his re- '.piy. , I "Our respective positions have been tstated and understood, and we" agree I. hat conference, not correspondence, u the moat practical and hopeful way to an understanding. "We accept the Invitation. Our delegates will meet you in London on the date mentioned and explore every possibility of a settlement by per sonal discussion." Surrender Net Required. The formula of the' association of Ireland with other communities of tho British empire, for which the mind of Mr. Lloyd George was re sponsible, has finally brought to gether two sides to the long-drawn-out controversy on terms which it is considered here Involve the surrender ty neither side. The conference is expected to be unprecedented in the history of Great Britain, If not of Europe. One result of it will be the cancellation of hopes of Mr. Lloyd George attending the Washington disarmament conference because the country will look to his diplomacy to steer the empire through the waters of tho complicated under taking. The belief was expressed In tilgh quarters tonight that If Mr. Lloyd George is successful In the task of bringing about peace In Ireland lie Till have achieved greater honors than could be attained at Washington. Griffith May Be Delegate. Although no names have been for mally announced, it Is understood that the Sinn Fein delegates to the ! conference will be Arthur . Griffith. founder of the Sinn Fein; Michael Collins1, finance minister; Robert C. Barton, who has been a leading fig ure In the negotiations; Eamon J. Dugran, Sinn Fein member of par liament, and George Gavin Duffy, who has acted as representative of the Sinn Fein abroad. The programme of the conference remains to be decided. Two courses appear to be possible. The first Is that the conference of leaders merely frame the general platform determin ing Ireland's position and write down the main planks of the agreement, as was done in Mr. Lloyd George's orig inal offer tn the Sinn Fein, delciratlna- the work of arranging the new plan of Irish government to other nego tiators. The alternative course Is for the conference' to sit as long as ia sccosary to settle the details of Ire land's relations with the remainder of the Vnited Kingdom. Delegates Not Announced. Beyond this point there Is little ipouuiHuon as yet, aitnougn tne pos sibility is advanced that the Sinn elncrs may ask for the restoration Ireland as a kingdom under the rltlsh. crown, for which growing Sentiment among important factions of the Irish is declared to have been making Itself felt. While It is generally recognised that the calling of the conference does not necessarily mean a solution of the Irish problem ia at hand, it is considered the greatest step yet taken toward the possible smoothing out of the difficulty. The British delegates to the con ference have not been announced, but It IS presumed that in addition to Mr. LJoyd George, who will preside, they w-IU be Lord Chancellor Birkenhead, Chief Secretary for Ireland Green wood. Secretary for War Sir Laming iCuuuuued. na I'm 4, toluuui i-T i Ex-Salem Woman Said to Have . Map Showing Location of Cache Near Columbia River. WEN'ATCHEE, Wash.. Sept. SO. If Mrs. Elisa Turtle, formerly of Sa lem, Or., can be found, Information is at hand which, it ia believed, will lead to the discovery of 185,000 worth of nuggets and gold dust hidden along the Columbia river near Qulncy, Wash., 45 years ago by miners on their way home from British Colum bia mines. The gold was hastily hidden during the Indian depredations in the '70s. AH member of the party died after ward except Mrs. Eliza Turtle, then a little girl. She has made diligent search for years for the cache of saddles and other accoutrements which was the key to the place where the gold was hidden. Eight years ago she gave up the hunt, but said if she could find the cache she could immediately walk to the spot where the gold was hidden. The cache has been found by two men who were trapping coyotes and the story of the find brought to We natchee yesterday. Accompanying the saddles found Is a box with the legal papers, now undecipherable, and other interesting articles. The find corre sponds to the map given her by her father before he died, but she never was able to find the spot where the goods were placed. SALEM, Or.. Sept. 30. (Special.) A search of all available directories failed to find the name of Mrs. Elis abeth Turtle. Inquiries among old time residents are being conducted and a trace of her may be found. TROLLING LAUNCH BURNS Red Eagle Destroyed by Fire Off Mouth or Columbia. ASTORIA. Or., Sept. 30. (Special.) The trolling launch Red Eagle was totally destroyed by fire off the mouth of the Columbia river yester day afternoon, according to a report filed by Charles Bellman, the owner, at the custom-house this morning. Bellman was trolling outside and had trouble with his engine. He cleaned the tub and then started the engine, but It back-fired, setting the oil and grease underneath afire. Bellman was picked up by another troller. The boat was valued at 13800, about one-third covered by Insur ance. Bellman also lost 300 pounds of fish. PIGEONS AFIRE. IN FLIGHT Birds Escape Burning Building But Fall Like Rockets. ST. PAUL. Sept. 30. When an em ploye of a wholesalo prodoce firm here dived through a second story window to escape flames, which were consuming the building, last night, hundred of pigeons followed him. As they emerged from the broken win dow the black background of night made noticeable spots of flames on wings and tails of many of the birds Their course was over the Mississippi river. Fanned by the motion of flying the flames spread until the birds were en veloped and many of them, like fall ing rockets, dropped into the stream SHRINERSTO VISIT FAIR Al Kader Special to Leave Today for Salem Exhibit. A special train will be operate! from the Union station today, leaving at 12 o'clock, to carry members of Al Kader temple. Mystic Shrine, to the state fair at Salem. A special programme has been ar ranged by A. H. Lea', secretary of the state fair and past potentate of Al Kader temple. The Shrine chan ters will take part In this programme and will also sing during the after noon races. The special train will leave Salem at 10:15 P. M. to bring the delegation home." The train will be in charge of Hugh J. Boyd, recorder of Al Kader temple, and Harvey Wells, captain of the guard. JURY SOUTHARD PROBLEM Entire Day's Session Spent in Questioning Talesmen. TWIN FALLS Idaho, Sept. 30. All but 13 out of the special venire of 40 called in court today in an effort to fill the jury box In the case of the state against Lyda Meyer Southard, accused poisoner of Edward F. Meyer, her former husband, were either ex cused from service or discharged for cause upon challenge by one side or the other. The ertire day's session was given over to questioning of talesmen. Paul Vincent Southard, husband of the defendant, appeared in court to day in the uniform of his rank as a petty naval officer. W. J. Trueblood, father of the defendant, sat by his daughter's side during the session. STILLMAN HEARING RESET Court to Resume Consideration of Case October 25. NEW YORK, Sept. 30. Resumption of the hearings in the divorce suit brought by James A. Stillman. bank er, against his wife has been defi nitely fixed for October 25. Referee Gleason, whose Illness caused a postponement, today noti fied John F. Brennan of Yonkers, chief counsel for Mrs. Stillman, of (he change la dates, . i ruDiic uonstruction ai, Once Advocated. PART-TIME WORK INDORSED Responsibility of Leadership Left to Mayors. STATES ASKED TO HELP Unemployment Conference Coun sels Fair Ploy to Speed Adjust-' ment of Retail Prices. WASHINGTON. D. C Sept. 30. Formulation of an emergency pro gramme designed to effect the imme diate relief of the nation's idle, va riously estimated at from 3.500,000 to 5,500.000 persons, was completed today by the national conference on unem ployment with the adoption of spe cific measures recommended by com mittees. The conference then adjourned un til October 10, when it will consider a permanent unemployment policy and suggestions for the return of business and commerce to normal. Meanwhile its committees will work on details of these subjects. Mayors to Be Leaders. The conference found the task of meeting the unemployment emer gency waj primarily a community one with the responsibility of leadership and its solution resting on the mayors. Federal, state and municipal aid, how ever, was urged. Particular reference was made by tKe conference to the connection between prices and the solution of the country's economic questions. "During the period of drastic eco nomic readjustment through which we are now passing," the emergency pro gramme said, "the continued efforts of anyone to profit beyond the re quirements of safe business practice or economic consistency should be condemned. One of the important ob stacles to a resumption of normal business activity will be removed as prices reach replacement values in terms of efficient producing and dis tributing cost, plus reasonable profit. Adoption is Requested. "We, therefore, strongly urge all manufacturers and wholesalers who may not yet have adopted this policy to do so, but it is essential to the suc cess of these measures when put into effect that retail prices shall promptly and fairly reflect the price adjustment of the producer, manufacturer and the wholesaler. When these principles have been recognized and the recom mendations complied with, we are confident that the public wllj Increase (Concluded on rase 2, Column 1.) OUR VERSION OF HOW THESE REPORTS THAT ROY GARDNER HAS BEEN SEEN GET STARTED. I A WAN SLINKS, A VNHVCH Screws H .6 DnlMIf PatKinfta Vo fI Vllllnn Dollars In Excess of Same Period Last Year. That Industrial and business con ditions In Portland are on the march to normal good times following the deflation from war-time prosperity Is Indicated in the bank clearings for September, which showed a. greater total than for any other month so far this year. Building permits also fot the month were nearly a million dol lars in excess of the same month last year and more than (100,000 above the figures for August of this year. September also was a record month in Portland's shipping and wheat ex ports, for the exports were 150 per cent greater than for the same month last year. Portland's bank clearings for Sep tember were nearly $10,000,000 In ex cess of bank clearings at Seattle. The figures show Portland's clearings to have been $141,181,590 and Seattle's $131,181,590. While September's bank clearings were less than for the same month last year, the financial situation nev ertheless is considered to be clearing Itself In good shape owing to a gen eral increase in clearings which has manifested itself each month now for several months. The clearninga In Portland for August amounted to $130,150,774 and for July $108,812,524. A general home-building campaign is still a significant feature of build ing throughout the city. It is In the building situation that a greatly im proved condition over last year Is seen. Permits issued during Septem ber aggregated $1,974,690 as compared with an aggregate of $979,225 a year ago. This is a more than 100 per cent increase in value. Of the total number of permits, 271 were for residence' construction and provided for an outlay of $953,960. Building permits for August pro vided for an outlay of $1,833,745. In cluded In this were permits for 250 residences costing $895,725. Building permits so far this year have reached a total of $15,306,680. Permits for the first nine months of last year amounted to $12,149,495. UTAH TOWN AGAIN SHAKEN Earthquake. Damage In Elsinore, Richfield and Monroe $100,000. SALT LAKE CITY. Sept. 30. Re" portst from Elsinore, one of tho- trio of small towns in the southern part of Utah shaken severely yesterday by earthquakes, told of another vio lent tremor at 7:30 o'clock this morn ing. The latest shock rendered more ex tensive the damage done yesterday. Practically every building in the lit tle town was damaged and made un tenable, according to latest reports. The damage at Elsinore, Richfield and Monroe was estimated at nearly $100,000. So violent were the tremors that great sections of rock weighing thousands of tons tumbled down from cliffs in nearby canyons. Twelve years ago the same section suffered heavy property loss from a series of quakes. lAB - rW - XJV YU V s-v.otvG WVNVMv Ml IVi1ptl 17inn4 TIm1bm trlranrw In Cotton Prices Is Largely Cause of Stimulation. WASHINGTON. D. C, Sept. 30 American bustnesa conditions im proved decidedly during September, in the view of the federal reserve board, which made public tonight a distinctly optimistic review of con ditions for the month. Important changes for the better were seen In the credit system, "distinct encour agement" in many basic business lines, and strong liquidation, indicat ing increased ability of business to settle its accounts. The "wholesome Improvement" whlcn the board's correspondents found In almost every section ap peared to have been based largely on the advance in cotton prices. As a result of the higher cotton values liquidation has taken place and wholesale ir.d retail trade has been buoyed up, the report said. Marked improvement in the credit situation was cited by the review is the noteworthy feature of busi ness during the month, the board de claring that "taken all in all" from a financial standpoint, the month has been in the main a period of distinct encouragement. The board noted only a slight In crease in employment. "There has been a steady and reasonably heavy movement of ag ricultural products to distributing and export centers," the board re ported. Prices of most of these have advanced to an extent, although a drop in livestock quotations was seen, attributed to local marketing con ditions. ILLITERACY ON DECLINE 18,52 6 In Slate of Washington Unable to Write. WASHINGTON. D. C, Sept. 30. The percentage of illiteracy in the state of Washington, according to census bureau figures announced today, was 17 in 1920, compared with 2.0 in 1910, there being a total of 18,526 persons 10 years of age and over in the state in 1920 unable to write in any lan guage. , Of this number 162S were native whites of native parentage, 751 of mixed parentage and 11,630 of foreign birth, 2127 Indians. 472 Chinese and 1603 Japanese. 30 INDICTED IN CHICAGO 2 cx-Dry Officers Charged With Accepting Bribes. CHICAGO, Sept. 30. The federal grand Jury today returned indictments against 30 persons charging violation of the prohibition laws, using the mails to defraud and impersonation of government officials. Two ex-prohibition agents were In dieted on charges of accepting bribes and of extortion, while the Helen Clare corporation and its ' officials were Indicted for alleged use of the mails to defraud through sales of cosmetics. .. WE YHmVC'S. HE NUUTcKH.rV VJf-K 'SEVORt TrlE. VSSVIS- Se-S r WORSE. Y IAS. W Vie Tuuvs X Payments to Be Held Up Until December. COURT ACTION IS FRIENDLY Portland Post of Legion to Take Action. EARLY DECISION ASKED I'ormalily Is Made Neccssiiry by New York Situation Which De presses Bond Market. SALEM, Or.. Sept. 30. (Special.) Constitutionality of the Oregon bonus law will be passed upon by the su preme court of Oregon in a friendly suit which Is to be instituted in the lower courts immediately. This ac tion was decided upon today by the state bonus commission after it had been found that sale of the initial bonds waited upon such action in view of the recent New York decision against the bond issue In that state. The commissioners said that there are- no points of similarity between the Oregon and New York situation, but that the friendly suit In the Ore gon courts is necessary only in order to effect a sale of the bonds. Preliminary arrangements for the suit were being made today by Sec retary Brumbaugh under Instructions of the commission. Pont InnlilDI,, ProrredlnKX. The proceedings will be instituted by the commander of Portland post No. 1, of the American Legion. T. H. Boyd, who is a taxpayer, will petition for an injunction restraining the commission from selling the bonds. The petition probably will . be promptly denied by the circuit court of Multnomah county and certified to the supreme court for decision. The commission will ask that the case be advanced on the supreme court calen dar in order that it may be cleared up in short, order. No slowing down of the bonus ma chinery will result from the suit, the commission announced. The work will continue as if no suit were pend ing although the legal action will dis turb tne commission's plan to open bids for the sale of bonds early in October and probably will delay bonus payments until December. Official Statement lamed. The following official statement was given by this commission follow ing its meeting this afternoon: "In order to effect the sale of the bond issue at this time it has been found necessary by thja commission to cause the question of constillonal ity of the Oregon bonus law to be passed upon by the supreme court of the state. Accordingly, under an ar rangement with representatives of the ex-service men, an injunction will be asked by them from the lower courts restraining the commission from sell ing the bonds. This action will serve to bring the case before the supreme court. "The commission regards this ac tion as a formal proceeding neces-1 sary in the advantageous sale of! bonds, as there is no question In the minds of the commission concern- lng legality and constitutionality of I the law. I Xerr York Drrlnloa Cited. "The commission had hoped to obvi ate this formality and feels that such a suit would not have been neces sary except for decision against the New York bonus law, which, though In no way similar to the Oregon law, served to depress the bond market for bonus bonds and thus make the suit here mandatory. "The work of the commission will continue as heretofore and applica tions will be received and checked as in the past. In fact, the commis sion will proceed quite the same as If no suit were pending except that actual disbursement of funds must await the decision of the supreme court and the subsequent sale of the initial bonds." PORTLAND MEN HONORED Messrs Barton and Meyers Picked as Gas Association Directors. SAM FRANCISCO, Sept. 30 Henry Bostwick, manager of the San Fran cisco division of the Pacific Gas & Electric company, was chosen presi dent of the Pacific Coast Gas asso-1 elation at the annual convention held at Del Monte, Cal. The organization embraces every branch of the gas in dustry in this section of the country. Other association officers include: W. H. Barton, Portland, Or., and George L. Meyers, Portland, Or., di rectors. REVOLT ON IN HUNGARY Peasants Up in Arms in Several! Sections of Country. ' BUDAPEST, Sept 30. Peasant re volts were reported from several sec tions "of Transylvania, mostly along the Hungarian border, with the peas ants demanding land grants, 'ousting authorities and plundering shops. Garrisons have been reinforced, and. It was announced from Bucharest, a land reform measure is to be exe cuted immediately so as to quiet the fie&santg. , . Church Says Study Is in Conformity With Principles of Declaration of Independence. NEW YORK, Sept. 30. The su preme court of the United States will be asked to determine whether the Bible can be legally excluded from the public schools. This was announced tonight by leaders of the Presbyterian church here, who have headed a movement among various religious denomina tions to bring a test case before the nation's highest tribunal. The state of Washington, which of ficially excludes the Bible from Us public schools, will furnish the, jasls for the'' case. The contemplated action had its inception in the synod of Washington of the Presbyterian church. The lir.e of attack will be based upon the Declaration of Independence, the Tresbyterian asserting that the declaration is a covenant between the American nation and God, and that the study of the Bible by American children is essential to an under standing of the covenant and to full knowledge of God. "To exclude the Bible from the pub lic schools." the Presbyterians con tend In their presentment prepara tory to an appeal to the supreme court. "Is to violate one of the es sential clauses of the opening para graph of the Declaration of Inde pendence. In the state of Washing ton the attorney-general and later the state supreme court have ren dered an opinion in which the Bible, in effect, is adjudged to be a 'sec tarian' book and in which It is de creed to be unconstitutional to read or teach the Bible in the stato schools." The Presbyterians declare that "this ruling, opinion and construc tion" is erroneous and that the state constitutional - provisions so con structed are void as being in conflict with and repugnant to the principles of the Declaration of Independence." IDAHO BANK IS ROBBED Safety Deposit Boxes or I'ruitland Institution Looted. , BOISE. Idaho, Sept. 30. (Special.) The combination lock of the'vault In the Frultland State bank at Fruit land was blown off some time Thurs day night or this morning and a number of safety deposit boxes b:-oken op-'Ti nnd rifled by yepgmen, who secured entrance to the, building through a back window. Th lock was broken on th.5 win dow and entrance to the vault was gained by blowing off the combina tion lock. No check has yet been made by officers of the bank, as pho tographs will be taken of the finger prints before anything is touched. There was only a s.r.all amount of money In the vault, the majority of the valuables being in the safety de posit boxes of depositors. , Frank Gardner, formerly of Eagle, is cash ier of the Fruitland tank. INDEX OF TODAY'S NEWS The Weather. YESTERDAY'S Maximum temperature, 66 degrees: minimum, 4S degrees. TOIJAY'S Fair; norlhwealurly winds. Foreign. Japan is building- slant battlchip. Pag. 8. Irian accept vrcniior's call to cuntercnca. Fuge 1. American women voters declared much like Engllah. Page -U. League assembly indulges in word war over llusnian rrllrf. Palte 6. Peace trruty with United States speedily ratilicd by Herman reicjiiia. -au National. Senators Smoot and Simmons propoae sep arate tax bill prosxammes. i'atfu -. Employment programme framed. Page 1. Business ltV'ltcr' iedcral reserve board. Page 1. Way Is cleared for board to build up mer chant marine. Pago 8. Domestic Mrs. Gardner puts only hop In Roy's sur render. Pas 1. Conduct of Ix Angeles dlntrlct attorney investigated by grand Jury. Togo 8. Supremo court to decide on Bible in public schools. Fag 1. Real ghost dectnred seen near Slaten Island, N. Y.. cemetery. Paso S. Fatty to be held nn liquor charge. Tago 8. Pacific Northwest. Natives of Washington predornlnato In cental of whiles for .tate. Page 7. Clew to SX5.000 treasure Is discovered. Pag 1. Greeham boy wins highest honors at fair. Page- 7. Krlendly suit to t.t bonus law to be started ut once. Page 1. Jury gels intruetlous in Mahoney murdei trial. Page 3. 8 ports. Fat days of guarantees past for boxers. Pegs 10. Football season In Portland will open to day. Pago 14. Hunting season on ducks opons today. Pago 14. Pacific Court league results: At Portland 2. Los Angeles 10; at Seattle J, Kan Francisco 1; at San Francisco, Oakland 14, Salt Lake It. Pago 14. Rom City speedway rapidly being made Into golf cour.e. Page 14. Rare for pennant li as tight as it can get. Page 15. Commercial and Murine. Bearish tactics depress coast hop markets. Page -1. Chicago wheat declines with predictions of larger receipts. Page 21. Railway stocks firm and other issues under pressure. Page 21. September wheat exports break all record! Page 20. Portland nnd Vicinity. Eggs jump 8 cents a dozen In week's tlma. Pago 12. Pearl Good, under arrest, confesses to 46 burglaries. Tage 4. Federal reserve bank to remove agent at Brookings. Page 0. Interstate bridge tolls help county finances none. Page 9. Heavy lumber production in next five year suited. Page 21. Portland makes big business strides during September. Page 1. Emergency ordinance, regulating stages, passed by city council. Page 13. City council asks railroads to make 1-cent rate to national mt ot legion. Page 1Z 1025 exposition results declared fully to Justify proposed i" ltvj Pass t, Keep Promise to Harding, Is Advice to Gardner. PRISON HELD ONLY WAY OUT Parole Not Expected Until Good Intent Shown. SENSIBLE VIEW TAKEN Pretty, Faithful Mate Dcclurcs She Desires Nothing More Than Hoy's llcturn. BY DON SKENE. Ftaff Writer for The Oretronlan. SAN FRANCISCO, Cal., Sept. 30. (Special.) "I would give anything in the world if Roy would go back to McNeil's island and voluntarily sur render. I hope and pray that he will prove the good faith of his promise to President Harding to go straight by returning to prison of his own free will before he Is captured." This was the sentiment of Dolly Gardner, pretty young wife of Hoy Gardner, California mail robber, ai, the forces of law from the Canadian border to the Mexican lino today were bending all energies in a relentless man hunt for her spectacular hus band. Visit Is Not Hxpertrd. In a quiet private residence on one of the hills on the fringe of the downtown bustle and noiso of San Kranclsco, Dolly Gardner awaited ' news of her mate. She admitted to day that the house was watched closely and that sleeplcxs ears of Justice listened in on her telephone calls In the belief that Gardner even tually will come to her. 'I don't believe Roy will try to visit me, for I have told him of the, folly of such a meeting before," she said. "However, if Roy decides ho wants to see mc or the baby, nothings, will stop him, and he will take fool- V hardy chances." Surrender Is Requrnted. "If Roy had not appealed to Hard ing I would not be so earnest and ac tive In trying to get him to surrender. "But now that he has promised the president that he Is through with his criminal career, I want him to give himself up and show evcryono that he means what he says. He can have no real peace and happiness as a hunted man, and sooner or later they will get him. "If Roy gets my message and goes back to expiate his crimes, it will be the gamebt thing he ever did. I re alize that the president cannot sus pend his sentence tn a few days. Roy must show his fitness for a parole by at least several years of good be havior In the pen before his plea can be considered seriously by Mr. Hard lug." Another Robbery Feared. One particular fear haunts Mrs. Gardner at this time. That Is the pos sibility that her dare-devil husband will add another big train robbery to his sensational string. "I'm scared to death that Roy will hold up a train ono of these days," she said. "If he does, his case will be hopeless as far as a pardon is con cerned. I feel sure that Roy will not use a gun even though he is sur rounded and about to be captured. If he should kill an officer 'to avoid cap ture, it would mean a death sentence for him. I could not stand that. I would rather have Roy killed by an officer than have him hanged for shooting someone." Cache of Loot Doubted. Mrs. Gardner scoffs at the theory that her husband has a great store of loot hidden in some secret cache. "If Roy had a large sum of money, I would know about it. He would cer tainly tell me about It In an effort to provide funds for me and the baby." Since Mrs. Gardner was flooded suddenly with the spotlight of pub lic interest, she had been pursued and hounded by newspaper reporters In a hunt that has been almost as ener getic as that of officers for the pic turesque head of the Gardner house hold. "Newspaper reporters are peculiar people," she said. "I used to worry about the things they wrote, but I'm hardened now. They ask me to make statements, and if I don't they quote me anyway. I said 'How do you dor to one reporter and he wrote two columns about it. Kacape Ia Held taelesa. "I came to San Francisco to try to escape them. A certain girl re porter spotted ms as I was geftlhg Into a taxi. Jumped on the running board and started shooting questions at mo. Another girl quoted me as referring to Roy as 'my knight' an1 'my hero,' and you know I don't talk that way at all. "This interview to The Orrgo-niai is the only leal Interview I have had with a reporter since the day the news came that Roy had escaped from McNeil's island. At that time I didn't do anything but talk for a few minutes with newspaper men and women." Mrs. Gardner takes a sjnsible riew on the attitude of newspapers towarl her husband. "I don't blnmr them for criticising Roy In editorials. He .(Concluded on Page 2, Column iT) J 1 r E3 1 06.2